Arizona    Maps: State, Grand Canyon, Four Corners Area 1996 Aug 28 09:24 UT     // Four Corners area channel 3 nighttime view and discussion // Shaded relief map // Meant to show nighttime temperature variations, not fires. 1996 Aug 28 09:24 UT     // Grand Canyon area channel 3 nighttime view and discussion // Shaded relief map // Meant to show nighttime temperature variations, not fires. 1996 Aug 28 14:27 UT     // Good morning view of Four Corners area, few clouds // Useful reference view of this area. Mesa Verde fire scar shows. 1996 Aug 29 14:05 UT     // Good daytime view of Four Corners area // Mesa Verde fire scar very visible // Nearly clear view of the Four Corners area. Vegetation patterns seen well. 1996 Sep 13 01:23 UT     // One tiny hot spot near San Manuel in southern Arizona. // Not clear if this is a fire. 1996 Nov 12 20:29 UT     // Daytime view showing fires near Mogollon Rim and two near the Grand Canyon // Two small fires near the Grand Canyon show little or no smoke. Seven or eight hot spots are visible on the channel 3 image, some show smoke plumes.

California    Maps: State Northern California    Maps: Northern California 1996 Aug18 09:33 UT     // Fork Fire // Fires near Yosmite National Park // The Fork Fire appears as a large bright area at about 39.2 deg N. The Stanislaus National Forest just west of Yosmite National Park fires are scattered bright spots at about 38 deg N. Several smaller fires are seen scattered over the image. 1996 Aug 19 09:22 UT     // The Fork Fire appears reduced // Fires near Yosmite National Park // The Fork Fire appears less intense. The fires near Yosmite look about the same. 1996 Aug19 20:55 UT     // Daytime view of smoke: Fork Fire, Fires near Yosmite, San Luis Obispo fire // Slightly noisy image showing smoke from the large fires. 1996 Aug 20 20:40 UT     // Fork fire // Fires near Yosemite // San Luis Obispo fire // Smoke is seen from these three large fire areas. 1996 Aug 21 01:25 UT     // Very interesting view of the smoke plumes // The major fires seen yesterday show complex smoke plumes. 1996 Aug 21 20:29 UT     // Smoke plumes still visible but much reduced // Image is near far edge of pass so resolution is dropping. 1996 Aug 22 20:17 UT     // Fires near Yosemite near edge of scan // Poor view of smoke plume blowing west. 1996 Aug 27 09:36     // Large fire near Tionesta // Good view of fires near Yosemite // First good pass to cover CA for awhile finds a bright new fire. 1996 Aug 28 09:24 UT     // Tionesta fire // Fires near Yosemite // Both fires appear less intense in the channel 3 views. 1996 Aug 28 14:27 UT     // Smoke plume from Tionesta fire // Interesting smoke plume from fires near Yosemite // Morning view. Fires near Yosemite form a plume of smoke floating halfway up the Sierras and extending north along the range. 1996 Aug 31 01:06 UT     // Large smoke plume from fires near Yosemite // On the images of Nevada. The fires near Yosemite are visible on the Nevada image and are creating a lot of smoke in this view. Southern California    Maps: Southern California 1996 Aug18 09:33 UT     // San Luis Obispo fire // The San Luis Obispo fire is visible at about 35.4 deg N. 1996 Aug 19 09:22 UT     // The San Luis Obispo fire appears reduced // The San Luis Obispo fire appears less intense. 1996 Aug19 20:55 UT     // Daytime view of smoke: Fork Fire, Fires near Yosmite, San Luis Obispo fire // Slightly noisy image showing smoke from the large fires. 1996 Aug20 09:10 UT     // San Luis Obispo fire // Fires near Yosmite // Both fires appear less intense. 1996 Aug 20 20:40 UT     // Fork fire // Fires near Yosemite // San Luis Obispo fire // Smoke is seen from these three large fire areas. 1996 Aug 21 01:25 UT     // Very interesting view of the smoke plumes // The major fires seen yesterday show complex smoke plumes. 1996 Aug 21 20:29 UT     // Smoke plumes still visible but much reduced // Image is near far edge of pass so resolution is dropping. 1996 Aug 22 20:17 UT     // Fires near Yosemite near edge of scan // Poor view of smoke plume blowing west. 1996 Aug 28 09:24 UT     // First view of the Marple fire // Fires near Yosemite // The Marple fire near Castaic Lake was set by a bored teenager two days before this view. This is the first of several views of this fire. 1996 Aug 28 09:24 UT     // Southern CA channel 3 nighttime view and discussion // Shaded relief map // Meant to show nighttime temperature variations, not fires. 1996 Aug 29 09:13 UT     // The Marple fire grows // Fires near Yosemite // The Marple Canyon fire near Castaic Lake appears larger. 1996 Aug 29 14:05 UT     // The Marple fire grows a bit bigger yet // Fires near Yosemite // The Marple Canyon fire is a bit bigger than is appeared on the earlier view today. Smoke from the fires near Yosemite is still seen, the fires are less visible than before. 1996 Sep 04 01:19 UT     // Fires near Yosemite // Two small fires to the SE // Fires look small on channel 3 but show some smoke. 1996 Sep 05 09:44 UT     // Fires near Yosemite barely seen // Small fire SE a tiny dot // These fires are barely seen on this image. 1996 Sep 13 01:23 UT     // Two small fires in the southern Sierras // Image confused by clouds but two definite fires visible. Smoke is visible from the fires near Yosemite but no bright hot spots seen on channel 3. 1996 Oct 22 09:29 UT     // Malibu fire // 3 fires near San Diego // This is the view that the Los Angeles Times wrote about in an article. 1996 Oct 23 20:48 UT     // Daytime view showing fire scars of yesterday and earlier // Many fire scars visible including Malibu, the fires near San Diego, the Marple canyon fire, and more.

Colorado    Maps: State, Four Corners Area Mesa Verda 1996 Aug19 09:22 UT     // Fire on Mesa Verde // A fire on Mesa Verde caused the evacuation of the mesa. 1996 Aug20 09:10 UT     // Mesa Verde fire spreads // The Mesa Verde fire spreads. 1996 Aug 28 09:24 UT     // Four Corners area channel 3 nighttime view and discussion // Shaded relief map // Meant to show nighttime temperature variations, not fires. 1996 Aug 28 14:27 UT     // Good morning view of Four Corners area, few clouds // Useful reference view of this area. Mesa Verde fire scar shows. 1996 Aug 29 14:05 UT     // Good daytime view of Four Corners area // Mesa Verde fire scar very visible // Nearly clear view of the Four Corners area. Vegetation patterns seen well.

Georgia    Maps: State 1996 Nov 12 18:45 UT     // Daytime view showing many channel 3 bright spots // Color composite shows tiny smoke plumes from some hot spots // Very interesting view. The hot spots are mostly fairly small but there are quite a few of them. Smoke plumes show fires are real. Best guess is agricultural burning.

Idaho    Maps: State, Northern, Southern, Hell's Canyon area, Yellowstone area 1996 Aug 21 01:25 UT     // Bright grass or brush fire with long smoke plume // This evening view shows a very interesting view of a fire in southern Idaho. 1996 Aug 21 20:29 UT     // Fire scar from yesterday's fire // Previous views // A nearly clear view of southern Idaho and some comparsison views. 1996 Aug 22 01:02 UT     // Hell's Canyon smoke fills Idaho valleys // Scattered smoke plumes and hot spots in east central Idaho // On Hell's Canyon image. Large area of smoke just east of Hell's Canyon. Smaller fires scattered in mountains to the east. View of southern Idaho showing burn scars and perhaps minor smoke. 1996 Aug 22 20:17 UT     // Clear view of state // Good clear reference view of state, very little smoke. On Hell's Canyon image: Good view of central Idaho mountains. 1996 Aug 23 00:39 UT     // Northern Idaho fires // Central Idaho fires // Southern Idaho fires // Numerous smoke plumes of various sizes scattered over state. On Hell's Canyon image: a more detailed look at the fires in central Idaho. 1996 Aug 23 14:37 UT     // One of the best views of the state // Pass was almost lost // This far western pass was almost lost but this image was made before that happened. This shows close to the best detail possible from our ground station in the east. 1996 Aug 24 14:14 UT     // Central Idaho // Minor smoke plumes // Fire scars // On Hell's Canyon image. Shows central Idaho and Hell's Canyon area. Shows scars from recent fires. Few scattered clouds. 1996 Aug 25 09:59 UT     // Night view // Many scattered fires in east central Idaho // Many scattered fires in east central Idaho. On Hell's Canyon image: fires in central Idaho show very well. One of the best fire map examples. 1996 Aug 26 01:16 UT     // Idaho side of Hell's Canyon shows several hot spots // Numerous scattered fires visible in east central Idaho // On Hell's Canyon image. Good view of east central ID fires. 1996 Aug 26 09:47 UT     // Last night's scattered fires in east central ID still visible // On Hell's Canyon image. Hell's Canyon appear slightly larger. Another view of east central ID fires. 1996 Aug 27 09:36     // Fire near Boise // Fire near southern border // The Boise fire is glimpsed through clouds and is located on the hills north of the city. 1996 Aug 28 14:27 UT     // Sharp morning view of southern Idaho // Clouds block parts of the image but it's still a good reference. 1996 Aug 29 09:13 UT     // Fire near Atomic City // First view in a sequence of an interesting fire in southern Idaho. 1996 Aug 29 14:05 UT     // Good daytime view of southern Idaho // Atomic City fire scar // The new fire scar near Atomic City is well shown. Channel 3 shows disconnected areas of the fire still burning. 1996 Aug 30 09:02 UT     // Fire near Atomic City still visible // New fire in central Idaho // The fire near Atomic City is broken into a number of areas. A fire in central Idaho becomes apparent. Last night's image may show just a hint of this fire. 1996 Aug 31 01:06 UT     // Evening view with lots of smoke // Atomic City fire // Central Idaho fire // Hell's Canyon and several small ones east // Large fire near Lewiston // The Atomic City fire shows a straight southern edge. 1996 Sep 01 00:43 UT     // Central Idaho fire grows, strong smoke plume // Unusual white smoke plumes // The central Idaho fire is near Challis, several towns marked on the channel 3 image. The smoke plume is very well seen. 1996 Sep 01 14:41 UT     // Good sharp daytime view // Central Idaho fire shows a little smoke // Mostly clear daytime view. Shows fire scars well. 1996 Sep 05 09:44 UT     // The central Idaho fire barely seen // This fire is still visible but barely. Clouds interfere. 1996 Sep 08 20:34 UT     // Fire scar in east central Idaho seen through scattered clouds // On Oregon Hell's Canyon image. 1996 Sep 13 09:53 UT     // Small fire in southern Idaho // Northwest of Gooding. 1996 Sep 14 01:00 UT     // A few hot spots, clouds interfere // Clouds lit by the low sun complicate this view, very little in the way of fires are seen.

Minnesota    Maps: State 1996 Sep 14 01:00 UT     // Numerous small bright spots scattered over parts of Southern Manitoba, Eastern North Dakota, Northern Minnesota // 12 hours later all but maybe one are no longer seen.

Montana    Maps: State, Yellowstone area 1996 Aug18 09:33 UT     // Grass or brush fire in SE MT // A group of bright spots is visible in SE MT. 1996 Aug19 09:22 UT     // Grass or brush fire in SE MT gone // Yesterday's fire is no longer visible. 1996 Aug20 09:10 UT     // Very small grass or brush fire in SE MT// Barely visible on channel 3. 1996 Aug 23 14:37 UT     // One of the best views of the state // Pass was almost lost // This far western pass was almost lost but this image was made before that happened. This shows close to the best detail possible from our ground station in the east. 1996 Sep 01 14:41 UT     // Interesting fog pattern in NW Montana // On northern Idaho image. Fog fills a large area of connected valleys. 1996 Sep 03 10:01 UT     // Two fires in southern Montana north of Yellowstone // On Wyoming image of Yellowstone. 1996 Sep 05 00:56 UT     // Two fires in southern Montana north of Yellowstone // On Yellowstone area image. Seen through scattered clouds, SE one intensifies. 1996 Sep 05 09:44 UT     // Fire north of Yellowstone near Alpine, MT // On Yellowstone area image. Clouds interfere but Alpine fire well seen. 1996 Sep 08 20:34 UT     // Good view of the fire scar from the Alpine fire // On the Wyoming, Yellowstone area image. 1996 Sep 13 01:23 UT     // A fire is seen at the west end of Fort Peck Lake // 1996 Sep 13 09:53 UT     // The Fort Peck Lake fire still visible // 1996 Sep 14 01:00 UT     // The Fort Peck Lake fire still visible //

Nevada    Maps: State 1996 Aug 19 20:55 UT     // Almost completely clear except for minor smoke from Ca // This shows a nearly clear daytime view of NV. 1996 Aug 20 20:40 UT     // Almost completely clear except for minor smoke from Ca // This shows a nearly clear daytime view of NV. 1996 Aug 21 01:25 UT     // Smoke from California // Small fire in Eastern NV // This evening view shows smoke drifting NE from CA. The plume from a small fire in eastern NV extends into Utah. 1996 Aug 21 20:29 UT     // Almost entirely clear view of state, no smoke seen // This view shows no visible smoke over the state. 1996 Aug 22 20:17 UT     // Small view of state, no smoke, scattered clouds // 1996 Aug 27 09:36     // Numerous small fires scattered over northern part of Nevada // This is the first of a sequence of views of these fires. 1996 Aug 28 09:24 UT     // Northern Nevada fires show very well // The fires are more numerous than on last night's view. 1996 Aug 28 14:27 UT     // Morning view showing fire scars // Very clear view of state // Little or no smoke but fire scars show well. Good reference view of state. 1996 Aug 29 09:13 UT     // The northern Nevada fires // Less numerous but a bit bigger. 1996 Aug 29 14:05 UT     // The northern Nevada fires diminish // Daytime view showing fire scars and also fires on channel 3. 1996 Aug 31 01:06 UT     // Fires in northern Nevada show smoke plumes // Smoke from the fires near Yosemite cover parts of Nevada. 1996 Sep 13 01:23 UT     // Small fire visible north of Eureka // Also another small one on the Oregon border. 1996 Sep 13 09:53 UT     // Small fire in northern Nevada // Between the small towns of Owyhee and Jarbidge.

New Mexico    Maps: State 1996 Aug 28 09:24 UT     // Four Corners area channel 3 nighttime view and discussion // Shaded relief map // Meant to show nighttime temperature variations, not fires. 1996 Aug 28 14:27 UT     // Good morning view of Four Corners area, few clouds // Useful reference view of this area. Mesa Verde fire scar shows. 1996 Aug 29 14:05 UT     // Good daytime view of Four Corners area // Mesa Verde fire scar very visible // Nearly clear view of the Four Corners area. Vegetation patterns seen well. 1996 Nov 12 20:29 UT     // Few tiny scattered bright spots on channel 3 // Very little activity seen. One small spot visible on eastern side of the Sacramento Mountains.

North Dakota    Maps: State 1996 Sep 14 01:00 UT     // Numerous small bright spots scattered over parts of Southern Manitoba, Eastern North Dakota, Northern Minnesota // 12 hours later all but maybe one are no longer seen.

Oregon    Maps: State, Hell's Canyon area Hell's Canyon 1996 Aug18 09:33 UT     // Some fires visible // Moderate fires are visible in Hell's Canyon. Other fires are seen to the southwest of Hell's Canyon. 1996 Aug 19 09:22 UT     // Hell's Canyon fires not visible // Other nearby fires appear reduced. 1996 Aug20 09:10 UT     // Several fires southeast of Hell's Canyon // Low resolution view near edge of pass. 1996 Aug 21 20:29 UT     // A few small areas of smoke // Fire scars visible // A nice oblique view of Cascades // A few clouds block an otherwise clear view of the state. Wallowa County Chieftain reference. 1996 Aug 22 01:02 UT     // Hell's Canyon smoke fills Idaho valleys // Large smoke complex southwest of Hell's Canyon // It looks like the smoke from Hell's Canyon is filling Idaho valleys just to the east, but there may be small fires there that don't show up in channel 3. 1996 Aug 22 20:17 UT     // Small areas of smoke scattered over state // Hell's Canyon shows some smoke // Nearly clear view of state. Smoke in SE Hell's Canyon. Wallowa County Chieftain reference. 1996 Aug 23 00:39 UT     // Hell's Canyon still burns // Two fires west of Hell's Canyon // Only shows Hell's Canyon area. Near edge of pass so low resolution. 1996 Aug 23 14:37 UT     // One of the best views of the state // Pass was almost lost // This far western pass was almost lost but this image was made before that happened. This shows close to the best detail possible from our ground station in the east. 1996 Aug 24 14:14 UT     // Minor smoke plumes // Fire scars // Hell's Canyon area, shows scars from recent fires. Few scattered clouds. 1996 Aug 25 09:59 UT     // Night view // Several big fires // Clouds interfere // Several large fires are seen in channel 3. Hell's Canyon fires look relatively small in this image. 1996 Aug 26 01:16 UT     // Hell's Canyon, smoke over much of image // Large fires SW of Hell's Canyon // Hell's Canyon shows several hot spots, mostly on ID side. The large fires to the southwest of Hell's Canyon are glimpsed through clouds and smoke. Smoke covers large areas of this image. 1996 Aug 26 09:47 UT     // Two large fires southwest of Hell's Canyon show very well // NE Oregon is clear and shows two large, very bright fires. 1996 Aug 28 14:27 UT     // Morning view, clouds block some fire areas // Fog in Cascade valleys // Somewhat cloudy view but still shows a lot of features. Visible Cascade volcanos: Crater Lake, Three sisters, Mt. Jefferson, Mt. Hood, Mt. Adams. 1996 Aug 31 01:06 UT     // Fires near Ukiah and Dale shows a major smoke plume // The fires near Ukiah and Dale do not appear as bright on this image but that are creating a lot of smoke which drifts northeast over Washington and Idaho. 1996 Sep 01 14:41 UT     // Daytime view showing many fire scars // Good views of Hell's Canyon area // Only traces of smoke are seen but many fire scars are visible. 1996 Sep 03 10:01 UT     // Fires near Dale // Lots of clouds but these fires show up. 1996 Sep 08 20:34 UT     // Good view of the fire scars in Hell's Canyon // Good view of the fire scars near Dale // Some scattered clouds.

Utah    Maps: State 1996 Aug19 09:22 UT     // Probably no visible fires // What was first thought to be a small fire on the northeast shore of Utah Lake seems to be a persistant hot spot, it's cause is not yet determined. 1996 Aug20 09:10 UT     // Four small hot spots, 3 probably fires // The 3 new spots are likely real fires. The spot from yesterday may be a long term spot. 1996 Aug 21 01:25 UT     // Fire in SW Utah shows long smoke plume // The smoke from this fires crosses central Utah. A smoke plume from a fire in Nevada extends into Utah. 1996 Aug 21 20:29 UT     // Small fire scar from yesterday's fire // Previous views // Fire appears much reduced. Scattered clouds over eastern Utah. 1996 Aug 22 01:02 UT     // Fire in SW Utah makes a comeback // This fire is north of Cedar City in southwest Utah. It looked almost out yesterday but now shows smoke and channel 3 hot spots. 1996 Aug 23 00:39 UT     // New fire in central Utah // Yesterday's fire hidden by clouds but shows smoke plume // A new fire is clearly visible and bracketted by two plotted towns on the channel 3 image. 1996 Aug 28 09:24 UT     // Four Corners area channel 3 nighttime view and discussion // Shaded relief map // Meant to show nighttime temperature variations, not fires. 1996 Aug 28 14:27 UT     // Morning view showing fire scars // Very clear view of state // Little or no smoke but fire scars show well. Good reference view of state. Only a few clouds. 1996 Aug 28 14:27 UT     // Good morning view of Four Corners area, few clouds // Useful reference view of this area. Mesa Verde fire scar shows. 1996 Aug 29 14:05 UT     // Good daytime view, some small fire scars visible // Nearly clear view. No smoke seen. 1996 Aug 29 14:05 UT     // Good daytime view of Four Corners area // Mesa Verde fire scar very visible // Nearly clear view of the Four Corners area. Vegetation patterns seen well. 1996 Sep 04 01:19 UT     // Fires near Promontory Utah // Barely visible color composite smoke plume but bright channel 3 hot spots. 1996 Sep 08 20:34 UT     // Fire scar from the fire near Promontory // Color difference in Great Salt Lake from the railroad causeway // Promontory fire scar well seen. Also note what looks like one or two small fire scars on NE side of Utah Lake.

Washington    Maps: State 1996 Aug 22 20:17 UT     // Clear view of state, little if any smoke // Shows a lot of detail but not far from scan edge. May be close to best possible from APL. 1996 Aug 23 14:37 UT     // One of the best views of the state // Pass was almost lost // This far western pass was almost lost but this image was made before that happened. This shows close to the best detail possible from our ground station in the east. 1996 Aug 25 09:59 UT     // Night view // Several fires in north central Washington // Two fire complexes visible. 1996 Aug 26 09:47 UT     // Fire is seen on the Colville Indian Reservation // This moderately sized fire is well shown. 1996 Aug 27 09:36     // Two small fire areas seen thorugh scattered clouds // The Colville fire seen and one to its west. 1996 Aug 31 01:06 UT     // Fire south of Wilbur // West side of state cloudy // The fire south of Wilbur is fairly large. Another possible small fire southwest of Bickleton. 1996 Sep 01 14:41 UT     // Daytime view of fire scar from fire south of Wilbur // Earlier image available for comparison makes the new fire scar evident.

Wyoming    Maps: State, Yellowstone area 1996 Aug 22 20:17 UT     // Very good clear view of Yellowstone Park // Good reference view of Yellowstone Park. 1996 Aug 24 14:14 UT     // Yellowstone area // One small fire NE of park // Very good clear view of Yellowstone area. One small fire NE of park shows a hot spot and has a smoke plume. 1996 Aug 25 09:59 UT     // Night view // Fire NE of Yellowstone still seen // The the fire near the Clark Fork of the Yellowstone is still seen. Links to previous views of area given. 1996 Aug 26 01:16 UT     // Cluster of thunderstorms over north central WY // Channel 3 glimpses of fires beneath Tstorms // This is the start of a sequence showing numerous small fires in north central WY. 1996 Aug 26 09:47 UT     // Good view of scattered small fires near Big Horn Mountains // These fires were glimpsed through thunderstorms on last night's view. Probably caused by lightning. 1996 Aug 27 09:36     // Very good view of the fires seen last night // Small fire on NE side of Big Horns // The fires can be seen spreading out from their points of origin. 1996 Aug 28 09:24 UT     // Northern Wyoming fires still visible // Changes are apparent. 1996 Aug 28 14:27 UT     // Morning view, clouds block fire areas // Interesting fog south of Tetons // View of state (partly clouded) and closeup of Yellowstone area. Fog fills several valleys. 1996 Aug 29 09:13 UT     // Northern Wyoming fires still visible but partly clouded over // A few are seen but most of the fire area blocked by clouds. 1996 Aug 31 01:06 UT     // Yellowstone fire near Fishing Bridge // Low sun and lots of smoke degrade the color composite. Channel 3 shows a clear hot spot. 1996 Sep 01 00:43 UT     // Yellowstone fire grows, strong smoke plume // The image is poor but a strong smoke plume and hot spot are seen. 1996 Sep 01 14:41 UT     // Yellowstone in 3-D // Very clear daytime view of Yellowstone area // Yellowstone fire shows small trace of smoke // Very good daytime view used with a good earlier view to form a stereo pair. 1996 Sep 03 10:01 UT     // Two fires seen north of Yellowstone // A new fire appears. 1996 Sep 05 00:56 UT     // Fire on the northeast side of the Bighorns // Yellowstone area fires // The fire NE of the Bighorns was first seen on the Aug 27 image, much bigger now. The fires north of Yellowstone intensify. 1996 Sep 05 09:44 UT     // The fire NE of the Bighorns is near Story // Smaller fire near Bill and Douglas // Fire north of Yellowstone near Alpine, MT // Clouds interfere but several fires are seen. 1996 Sep 08 20:34 UT     // Very good view of the fire scars near the Bighorns // Fire scar near Bill and Douglas // Good view of Yellowstone area // Best view of some of these fire scars. On Oregon Hell's Canyon image.

Baja California 1996 Sep 13 01:23 UT     // Hot spots seen in northwest Baja // One southeast of Tijuana, another farther to the southeast.

British Columbia Southern British Columbia 1996 Aug 25 09:59 UT     // Night view // One moderately sized fire visible // One fire seen in Southern British Columbia near the small town of Lytton. Very clear night image. 1996 Aug 26 09:47 UT     // Night view // Last night's fire still visible // The fire seen last night appears somewhat reduced.

Manitoba, southern 1996 Sep 14 01:00 UT     // Numerous small bright spots scattered over parts of Southern Manitoba, Eastern North Dakota, Northern Minnesota // 12 hours later all but maybe one are no longer seen.